Package Design - Create 3D Model from Dyeline/Blueprint
I'd like to be able to build a product package from a dieline created in Illustrator, fold it along specific lines, give it a UV gloss on parts, add foiling and embossing where required.
Hello everyone! Thank you so much for your patience and interest in this idea over the last several years. At Adobe MAX 2018 we demoed a technology called Project Fantastic Fold, and over the last year we’ve been working on bringing that into reality.
I’m pleased to say we’re opening our first private beta for Project Fantastic Fold, a tool for interactively folding dielines into 3D models.
The private beta requires you to join the Prerelease. If you’re interested please head to https://www.fantasticfold.com/ and sign up for the beta program!
Thanks Jeanette! Just watched the Adobe Max Sneak and am very excited! Progress is looking fantastic!
Features most valuable:
- assisted artwork alignment
- showing progressive folding animation
- exporting to Dimension for scene rendering
Features not shown but very much desired:
- Selection of substrates and thicknesses (standard card, corrugated card, material weight (GSM) etc)
- rendering of finishes (matte/gloss, spot UVs, Foils etc)
- Curved folds accurately represented
- Live update of art and dieline. (ESKO locks the dieline once 3d fold is created)
- The ability to record the fold animation and send to suppliers to communicate production processes.
- ability to export to a number of common 3d file formats
Will there be BETA testing open to previous Felix testers? If so, please sign me up!
Thanks Adobe team :)
Rehan Saiyed commented
Totally blown out! Better than my existing Origami and Esko Visualiser :)
alexandre becquet commented
I've seen this and it's more than Awesome !!! Great work !
Chris Tursi commented
I can't wait to have a play with that!
It'd be a nice to have, but probably not essential, to be able to apply different materials to different parts of the design in Dimension. Like adding a UV gloss to a part of the design or foiling.
Say you work on the design in AI, bring everything into FF and you can switch layer's visibility on or off. And have everything dynamically linked so you can make adjustments to artwork and it's updated across all applications.
But in any case this looks great.
Tim Melis commented
Any progress on this feature?
Maria Araghouna commented
Yes agree., exact dimensions like other adobe programs would be a lovely start.
Sara Oestreich commented
I agree, I have packages of all sorts that I am needing to create a quick 3D images of (to save costs on photoshoots and to have better control over perspective and angles). The cube object is almost perfect for some of them, and others it is just too deep. I wish we could select "cube" (or in the future "rectangle"?) then enter the exact dimensions of front and sides that we need (much like that of the shape tools of Illustrator), which then creates a blank 3D object to design according to our specs.
Jill B Gilbert commented
I have the same needs for package design. In fact, I tried Adobe Dimension for the first time today. I found that I could not specify the package dimensions (or proportions) and I could apply only one "decal" to my box. I will send Jeanette a file.
Brittany Ledyard commented
I recognize that Dimension is currently only a "skinning" program and not an actual 3D-building program, but I would absolutely love to have the ability to create dielines in Illustrator and connect them like smart objects to a model in Dimension, where if I adjust the dieline in Illustrator the model will update accordingly in Dimension. Ability to designate separate objects as separate materials (i.e. for creating product windows or foiling effects) would be hugely useful as well.
As a middle ground until/unless actual modeling functionality is added, it would be great to be able to open up an automatically-generated dieline for an existing Adobe 3D object so that we can compose & place our decal PNGs with better precision. For instance, when I try to put a decal on the standard box object that comes with Dimension, the front looks great but the side panels squish the art to 50% width; if Dimension could generate a dieline for that box that I could open up in Illustrator, I could match the art to the dieline to avoid distortion.
The LiveSurface Context plugin for Illustrator does this magnificently with their Plus objects, for instance.
1. Dyeline imports from illustrator, support transparency to take advantage of those amazing materials.
2. also ability to add multiple decals for side labels etc.
Jeff Korzeniowski commented
This is exactly what I would be looking for... The Packaging industry is in desperate need for an all in one solution from Adobe.
Carlos Díaz commented
build a pack imported from a dieline in illustrator would be terrific. as most professionals in the industry do not build their dielines in illustrator (but import them from more specialized software) no modifying would be required, just recognizing the main types of lines (creases, cut lines, etc).
Tim Melis commented
Mark Aventino commented
It will be cool before folding to have possibility choose paper type and width. For example 2 mm textured cardboard, or 0.5 gloss paper, or 3mm goffered cardboard.
Mark Aventino commented
Where is great product – Boxshot ORIGAMI, Illustrator plugin. Via this plugin possible to convert Dyeline from illustrator to textured 3d model object. After it can be imported to Dimensions. BUT, if you change dyeline or design, you must all time reexport all via Origami to Dimensions. It is time waste. It is really needed functionality, to have possibility same as Origami, but without export and with live dyeline and design update. Also it will be realy cool to make possible import from Illustrator (as in ESKO): UV varnish layer, Metall Foil layer, Embosing layer. Also to slow/bad rendering without GPU usage! Also need to rerender fragment.
Thats would be a great thing to make 3d models from an Illustrator object folded at the dielines.
I think a simplier and easyer to use software like the expensive Esko Studio is that what many designer seeking for. a software that can Folding a tetrapack a pouchbag or what else is needed for packaging previsualisation is missing in the adobe portfolio...
Shawn O'Connor commented
This would be the most amazing feature. I think smart object linking to illustrator would be the best way to edit the dies. Please make this happen!
This is the first thing I looked forward to see when I installed Dimension CC, please make it happen!
We design or product in Illustrator in Layers. So we have an image/print layer a cut layer, crease layer and so on.
That we export the layers for Esko Artios Cad (mentioned earlier in this threat) or we can see a rendered live preview with Zünd Design Center plugin for Illustrator. Link: https://www.zund.com/nl/zund-design-center-software
We use this models for fitting without the need of an actual product, so a pré-fit. And a 3D model for our costumer. If you can manage this it would be great!!!
If Adobe is targeting product Designers with Adobe Demensions, I find it actually unacceptable that it is not possible to import 3D models from Artios Cad, Solidworks, etc!
I would like to address this problem first so that the "Pro's" can really help you!